Nimitta of reality, and its relation to understanding the khandhas

a post by Nina van Gorkom

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Nimitta is a sign - (usually) taking a nimitta for something, a concept, for instance an idea about sound. The concept is not necessarily wrong view.

Ph: There is never stopping at sense door cognition for us, always straight to mind door processes, like water going from one sheet of onion paper to the next, in a flash, is the meaning here?


N: I remember this metaphor, yes, correct.

Ann: There is both nimitta of concept and nimitta of reality.

Nina: Usually it is nimitta of concept. Where the other 5 sense consciousnesses or bhavanga citta is not arising, then it’s thinking. Seems as if we are thinking all of the time.

Understanding is nimitta of reality.

It is not easy to understand feeling as a reality (nimitta of vedana).


N: Different meanings of nimitta in different contexts. Nimitta as object of jhaana such as a kasina is one thing.

Then there is the text: being infatuated by the the image of the whole and the details. We take what is seen for persons or things. Another meaning of nimitta.

Then there is sa"nkhara nimitta, nimitta of the khandhas. Nimitta of ruupa, of feeling etc.

N: I shall now requote from my ‘Alone with Dhamma’ (Ch on the present moment):

We read in the Kindred Sayings (IV, Ch II, § 80, Ignorance, translated by Ven. Bodhi) that a bhikkhu asked the Buddha whether there is one thing through the abandoning of which ignorance is abandoned and true knowledge arises.

We read that the Buddha answered:

“Ignorance, bhikkhu, is that one thing through the abandoning of which ignorance is abandoned by a bhikkhu and true knowledge arises.”

Ven. Bodhi states in a note to this passage:

“Though it may sound redundant to say that ignorance must be abandoned in order to abandon ignorance, this statement underscores the fact that ignorance is the most fundamental cause of bondage, which must be eliminated to eliminate all the other bonds.”

We read further on:

“Here, bhikkhu, a bhikkhu has heard, ‘Nothing is worth adhering to’.

When a bhikkhu has heard, ‘Nothing is worth adhering to’, he directly knows everything. Having directly known everything, he fully understands everything. Having fully understood everything, he sees all signs (nimitta) differently. He sees the eye differently, he sees forms differently…whatever feeling arises with mind-contact as condition… that too he sees differently…”

As to the term adhere, this pertains to clinging with wrong view. The Commentary explains the words, “he sees all signs differently (sabbanimittåni aññato passati)” as follows:

He sees all the signs of formations (sankhåranimittåni) in a way different from that of people who have not fully understood the adherences. For such people see all signs as self, but one who has fully understood the adherences sees them as non-self, not as self. Thus in this sutta the characteristic of non-self is discussed.”

In this Commentary the word “sa"nkhåra-nimitta”, the nimittas, signs or mental images, of conditioned dhammas, is used. When we were returning from the Bodhitree walking up the long stairways, a friend asked Acharn Sujin about this term. Nimitta has different meanings in different contexts. The nimitta or mental image in samatha refers to the meditation subject of samatha. We also read in some texts that one should not be taken in by the outward appearance of things (nimitta) and the details. However, the term sa"nkhåranimitta has a different meaning as I shall explain further on.

Acharn Sujin emphasized that whatever we read in the texts about nimitta should be applied to our life now. “What we read is not theory” she often explains.

We read in the “Mahåvedallasutta” (Middle Length Sayings, no 43), about freedom of mind that is “signless”, and we read that there are two conditions for attaining this: ”non-attention (amanåsikåra) to all “signs” and attention to the signless element”. The Commentary states that the signs, nimittas, are the objects such as visible object, etc. and that the signless is nibbåna. The signless liberation of mind is explained in a way that clearly connects it with the fruition of arahantship: lust, hatred and delusion are declared to be “sign-makers” (nimittakarana), which the arahant has totally abandoned.

When we read about object (årammana) as a sign, we should remember that this is not theory. An object is what citta experiences at this moment. When the rúpa that is the eyebase has not fallen away yet and colour or visible object impinges on it, there are conditions for the arising of seeing. If there were no citta which sees visible object could not appear.

When we asked Acharn Sujin whether the impression or sign (nimitta) of a dhamma is a concept or a reality she answered:

“These are only words. If we use the word concept there is something that is experienced by thinking. We should not just know words, but understand the reality that appears right now. There is not merely one moment of experiencing visible object, but many moments arising and falling away. When right understanding arises we do not have to use any term.”

She repeated that there is the impression of visible object right now. She said: “It is this moment.” Visible object impinges on the eyesense and after it has fallen away, what is left is the impression or sign, nimitta of visible object.

It seems that visible object lasts for a while, but in reality it arises and falls away. Acharn Sujin used the simile of a torch that is swung around. In this way, we have the impression of a whole, of a circle of light.

We know that seeing arises at this moment, but we cannot pinpoint the citta which sees, it arises and falls away very rapidly and another moment of seeing arises. We only experience the “sign” of seeing.

The notion of nimitta can remind us that not just one moment of seeing appears, but many moments that are arising and falling away. Also visible object is not as solid as we would think, there are many moments arising and falling away which leave the sign or impression of visible object.

Visible object that was experienced by cittas of a sense-door process has fallen away; sense-door processes and mind-door processes of cittas alternate very rapidly. Visible object impinges again and again and seeing arises again and again. When their characteristics appear we cannot count the different units of rúpa or the cittas that see, they arise and fall away; the impression of what is seen and of the seeing appears.

Acharn Sujin said:

“No matter whether we call it nimitta or not, it is appearing now. Whatever appears is the sign or nimitta of the dhamma that arises and falls away.”

We cling to what appears for a very short moment, but is does not remain. It is the same with saññå, there is not one moment of saññå that marks and remembers, but countless moments, arising and falling away.

Thus, we can speak of the nimitta of each of the five khandhas: of rúpa, of feeling, of saññå, of sankhårakkhandha, of consciousness. There are nimittas of all conditioned dhammas that appear at this moment, arising and falling away extremely rapidly.

Seeing arising at this moment sees visible object. We notice visible object and while we notice it, we have a vivid impression of it, but it has just fallen away. Seeing falls away but extremely shortly after it has fallen away another moment of seeing arises that experiences visible object. It arises again and again and in between one notices that there is seeing, or, if there are the right conditions a citta with sati can arise that is mindful of its characteristic. However, mindfulness of seeing arises after seeing has fallen away, not at the same time as seeing.


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But, venerable sir, how should a bhikkhu know, how should he see, for ignorance to be abandoned by him and true knowledge to arise?”

“Here, bhikkhu, a bhikkhu has heard, ‘Nothing is worth adhering to.’ When a bhikkhu has heard, ‘Nothing is worth adhering to,’ he directly knows everything. Having directly known everything, he fully understands everything. Having fully understood everything, he sees all signs differently (note 43). He sees the eye differently, he sees forms differently … whatever feeling arises with mind-contact as condition … that too he sees differently.

“When, bhikkhu, a bhikkhu knows and sees thus, ignorance is abandoned by him and true knowledge arises

Bhikkhu Bodhi note 43 > Spk: “He sees all
signs differently” (sabbanimittani annato passati): He sees all
the signs of formations (sarikhdranimittani)in a way differ-
ent from that of people who have not fully understood the
adherences. For such people see all signs as self, but one
who has fully understood the adherences sees them as
> nonself, not as self. Thus in this sutta the characteristic of
nonself is discussed.

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Nina: a question about concept: the step from nimitta to concept.

Acharn Sujin : If you do not think about the word concept, is there any reality? Whatever is real has its characteristic which appears as it is. When there is seeing or hearing the whole body from head to toe does not appear. When there is touching there cannot be touching of the whole body at once. When there is seeing, there is not one moment of seeing, there are many moments of seeing arising and falling away, but it is not known. There can be understanding of the nimitta of seeing. One moment of seeing cannot be the object of understanding. There are many processes and that is the nimitta of seeing. In the Tipitaka there are the words rupa-nimitta, vedana-nimitta, etc, for each of the five khandhas. Everything appears as nimitta, just one reality cannot be the object of understanding.
Hardness appears at the moment of touching. It is the object that impinged on the bodysense. It appears as something hard, it is the nimitta of hardness. When it is “something” it is paññatti, concept.

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Harji had a question about nimitta (sign of a reality).
Sarah: There were countless visible objects so it is the sign of visible object that is experienced. It is the understanding of the characteristic of visble object that appears. When there is direct understanding of a characteristic of reality, that characterisic appears. In truth it is the nimitta of that reality.

Nina: I still find nimitta a difficult subject. I just understand it in theory.

Jonothan: Only the nimitta, the after-image, can be experienced. Also the thinking about what has been seen comes in very quickly. The idea of people and things comes in so quickly. When there is understanding of reality, reality cannot be found in people and things, in trying to see it in people and things there is a concept, which is different. What the Buddha said has to be considered very carefully.

Acharn Sujin: If you do not think of the term what is now appearing? We do not call it anything yet, but what is there now? It is very hard to say, it arises and falls away instanly. We think of a table or a chair. The absolute reality is seeing and that which is seen. What is seen is only that which is now appearing. How can seeing arise without the object which is seen? Studying dhamma is studying what is there now in truth, in the absolute truth. We take it for a chair, but where is it? When there is seeing, is there any chair? We learn to understand each moment as it is. When we talk about a table, it is a “thing” but what is there can be experienced, through one doorway at a time. If there is no understanding of the absolute truth, of what is there now, there cannot be the understanding of dhamma.
What is the absolute truth of seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching and thinking? There are only six doors from day to day, from life to life. Different moments, not all at the same time, like seeing cannot be hearing, no matter in what life. Seeing has conditions to arise but it does not see a table. Is there anything on the table? That is not the truth, because then there would be something there.
Understand the truth of not self until there can be the understanding of dhamma, of anattå, that is uncontrollable. There can be more confidence in dhamma as not self.
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i Paṭisambhidāmaggapāḷ- 1. Mahāvaggo - Mātikā

[8. Appearance as Fearful (bhayatupaṭṭhāna)]

Bhayatupaṭṭhāne paññā ādīnave ñāṇaṃ.

The wisdom gained by the appearance (of all formations[14]) as fearful[15] is knowledge of their danger[16].

  1. Sabba-saṅkhārānaṃ (i.e. of all mental and physical phenomena (nāma-rūpa)) of the three planes of existence (ti-bhāva), four modes of generation (catu-yoni), five destinations of existence (pañca-gati), seven stations of consciousness (satta-viññāṇa-ṭṭhiti), and nine abodes of beings (nava-satt’āvāsa); or of past, present and future saṅkhāra. (PsA 14; Vism 645)

  2. ‘As the meditator (yogāvacaro) develops and cultivates the contemplation of dissolution, the object of which is cessation consisting in the destruction, fall and break-up of all formations, then formations classed according to the three planes of existence, etc., (see n. 14), appear to him as fearful.
    He sees how past formations have ceased, present ones are ceasing, and those to be generated in the future will cease in just the same way.’ (PsA 14; Vism 645)
    Or, more specifically, these appear to him as fearful due to 15 instances:
    ‘Uppāda (arising or being born with previous kamma as condition);
    Pavatta (continuance [of the present life faculty (jīvitindriya) Ps i. 102] after one has been born with karma as condition);
    Nimitta (the sign of all formations, i.e. the five aggregates that appear like graspable entities and are a sign for the arising of mental defilements; see n. 23 below);
    Āyūhana (accumulation of karma for future rebirth-linking (paṭisandhi));
    Paṭisandhi (rebirth-linking for future reappearance);
    Gati (destination in which the rebirth-linking takes place);
    Nibbatti (generation of the five aggregates);
    Upapatti (rearising or continuance of the karma-result in one who has been reborn);
    Jāti (birth with becoming (bhava) as its condition, itself a condition for ageing and so on);
    Jarā (ageing);
    Vyādhi (sickness);
    Maraṇa (death);
    Soka (sorrow);
    Parideva (lamentation);
    and Upāyāsa (despair).’
    (Ps i.59; explained at PsA 65, 184; Vism 649 and Pm ii. 384)

  3. ‘As he develops and cultivates the knowledge of appearance as fearful he finds no asylum, no shelter, no place to go to, no refuge in any kind of existence, etc. (see n. 14).
    In all the kinds of existence, etc. there is not a single formation that he can place his hopes in or hold on.
    The three kinds of existence appear to him like charcoal pits full of glowing coals, the four primary elements like hideous venomous snakes (see S iv. 174) …
    he sees them as utterly destitute of any core or any satisfaction and as nothing but danger.’ (Vism 647)
    The opposite kind of knowledge to ‘knowledge of danger’ (ādīnave ñāṇaṃ), however, is the ‘knowledge of the state of peace’ (santipade ñāṇaṃ), namely, that
    An-uppāda (non-arising), etc. is safety (khemaṃ), bliss (sukha), unmaterialistic (nirāmisa), and Nibbāna. (Ps i.59)
    Thus ‘when Uppāda (arising), etc., have clearly appeared to him as fearful, his mind inclines towards their opposites, and so this [‘knowledge of the state of peace’] is said for the purpose of showing the advantages in the knowledge of danger established by the appearance as fearful.’ (Vism 649)

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  1. […]
    The sign of formations (saṅkhāra-nimitta) refers to the five aggregates (pañca-kkhandha) [that form the object externally. See n. 12].
    These are a sign because they build the ground for the occurrence of the perception of compactness (ghana-saññā), or because they appear like graspable entities.’ (Pm ii.384)
    Particularly, it refers to the sign of materiality, feeling, perception, mental formations, and consciousness, to the sign of the eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, and mind, etc. all physico-mental phenomena mentioned at n. 7.
    These are called ‘worldly formations’ (lokika-saṅkhāra) (PsA 193), ‘because they are a sign for the arising of mental defilements, or because they appear in the mode of a sign. Thus they are called a sign.
    And although they are included to one’s own continuity, they are nevertheless called “external” because they are seen as alien to it.’ (Pm ii.384)
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A question about what nimitta is:

Sujin: It is there now. It is there because of the rapid arising and falling away of realities. No matter which unit of visible object is arising and falling away, it keeps on arising and falling away so that it forms up the sign (nimitta) of it as something that can be seen. Whenever there is seeing there is the sign of the rapid arising and falling away of realities.

Q: Through all doorways?

Sujin: Through all doorways. The nimitta covers up the truth of realities which arise and fall away. No one can really directly experience a particular reality, because there are so many [N: arising and falling away very rapidly] that form up the sign, the idea of people and things. There is a reality that can be seen and pa~n~naa begins to understand that what is seen cannot be any one at all. Only memory and thinking condition the idea of someone or something .

One lives in the world of nimitta of everything. Even citta or vi~n~naa.na is vi~n~naa.na nimitta. There are also ruupa nimitta, vedanaa nimitta, sa~n~naa nimitta, sa”nkhaara nimitta. It is not each particular reality that is cognized, it is so short; but the nimitta of each one is cognized. If there can be sati on and on, feeling appears as that particular feeling. The nimitta of visible object can be the object of understanding, it can be understood as the nimitta of that characteristic, not as people or things.

There is touching and hardness appears. Does it arise and fall away?

Answer: yes.

Sarah: At the moment of understanding a characteristic there is no concern whether this is visible object or nimitta.
Sujin: Even understanding that what appears is only visible object is not easy. It is the truth. Without understanding this there is no way to experience the arising and falling away of realities.

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Nåma and rúpa arise and fall away extremely rapidly. Every citta is followed by another citta without any interval, and thus, it seems that citta can stay. Rúpa does not fall away as rapidly as citta, it lasts as long as seventeen moments of citta. However, it still falls away rapidly and so long as there are conditions it is followed by another rúpa. All the sense objects we experience at this moment seem to last, it seems they were there already for a while when we experience them. Time and again Acharn reminded us that dhammas arise and fall away and that only a sign or nimitta is left of them when they have fallen away already. There is a sign or nimitta of each of the five khandhas that arise and fall away: of the khandhas of rúpa, of feeling, of remembrance (sa~n~naa), of the other cetasikas (sa.nkhårakkhandha) and of citta (vi~n~naanakkhandha). This is sa.nkhåra nimitta, the nimitta of conditioned realities [1]. It is impossible to have awareness and direct understanding of just one unit of rúpa or one citta. She said: “We do not have to think of nimitta, it appears. There is a little glimpse of that which is seen, different from when one closes one’s eyes. But we should not try to know it, it is useless. One begins to see the rapidity of the arising and falling away of realities. One clings to that which has gone. Only a sign is left.

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The succession of the arising and falling away of visible object conditions an idea of continuity, the perceiving of shape and form. Acharn explained: < Memory just marks and forms up the idea of a particular shape and form of this or that person. It is all that can be seen. Close your eyes and there is no more that which can be seen. …Without reality there is no nimitta but the arising and falling away is so rapid that it cannot be directly experienced.>

Because of wrong remembrance of self, atta-sa~n~na, the nimitta is taken for something. Concepts are thought of because of different nimittas. Sarah also gave some more explanations: <Thinking has an idea of shape and form and that leads to the idea of eyebrows, people and things. Without experiencing visible object many times there could not be the sign of visible object and without that sign there could not be thinking about the outward appearance and details of things. One thinks of concepts of people and things on account of what is seen.>

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22.3. Haliddakani (1)

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Venerable Mahakaccana was dwelling among the people of Avanti on Mount Papata at Kuraraghara. Then the householder Haliddakani approached the Venerable Mahakaccana, paid homage to him, sat down to one side, and said to him:

“Venerable sir, this was said by the Blessed One in ‘The Questions of Magandiya’ of the Aṭṭhakavagga:

‘Having left home to roam without abode,
In the village the sage is intimate with none;
Rid of sensual pleasures, without expectations,
He would not engage people in dispute.’

How, venerable sir, should the meaning of this, stated by the Blessed One in brief, be understood in detail?”

“The form element, householder, is the home of consciousness; one whose consciousness is shackled by lust for the form element is called one who roams about in a home. The feeling element is the home of consciousness … The perception element is the home of consciousness … The volitional formations element is the home of consciousness; one whose consciousness is shackled by lust for the volitional formations element is called one who roams about in a home. It is in such a way that one roams about in a home.

“And how, householder, does one roam about homeless? The desire, lust, delight, and craving, the engagement and clinging, the mental standpoints, adherences, and underlying tendencies regarding the form element: these have been abandoned by the Tathagata, cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated so that they are no more subject to future arising. Therefore the Tathagata is called one who roams about homeless. The desire, lust, delight, and craving, the engagement and clinging, the mental standpoints, adherences, and underlying tendencies regarding the feeling element … the perception element … the volitional formations element … the consciousness element: these have been abandoned by the Tathagata, cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated so that they are no more subject to future arising. Therefore the Tathagata is called one who roams about homeless. It is in such a way that one roams about homeless.

“And how, householder, does one roam about in an abode? (note 22) By diffusion and confinement in the abode consisting in the sign of forms, one is called one who roams about in an abode. By diffusion and confinement in the abode consisting in the sign of sounds … the sign of odours … the sign of tastes … the sign of tactile objects … the sign of mental phenomena, one is called one who roams about in an abode.

“And how, householder, does one roam about without abode? Diffusion and confinement in the abode consisting in the sign of forms: these have been abandoned by the Tathagata, cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated so that they are no more subject to future arising. Therefore the Tathagata is called one who roams about without abode. Diffusion and confinement in the abode consisting in the sign of sounds … the sign of odours … the sign of tastes … the sign of tactile objects … the sign of mental phenomena: these have been abandoned by the Tathagata, cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated so that they are no more subject to future arising. Therefore the Tathagata is called one who roams about without abode. It is in such a way that one roams about without abode.

“And how, householder, is one intimate in the village? Here, householder, someone lives in association with laypeople: he rejoices with them and sorrows with them, he is happy when they are happy and sad when they are sad, and he involves himself in their affairs and duties. It is in such a way that one is intimate in the village.

“And how, householder, is one intimate with none in the village? Here, householder, a bhikkhu does not live in association with laypeople. He does not rejoice with them or sorrow with them, he is not happy when they are happy and sad when they are sad, and he does not involve himself in their affairs and duties. It is in such a way that one is intimate with none in the village.

“And how, householder, is one not rid of sensual pleasures? Here, householder, someone is not devoid of lust, desire, affection, thirst, passion, and craving in regard to sensual pleasures. It is in such a way that one is not rid of sensual pleasures.

“And how, householder, is one rid of sensual pleasures? Here, householder, someone is devoid of lust, desire, affection, thirst, passion, and craving in regard to sensual pleasures. It is in such a way that one is rid of sensual pleasures.

“And how, householder, does one entertain expectations? Here, householder, someone thinks: ‘May I have such form in the future! May I have such feeling in the future! May I have such perception in the future! May I have such volitional formations in the future! May I have such consciousness in the future!’ It is in such a way that one entertains expectations.

“And how, householder, is one without expectations? Here, householder, someone does not think: ‘May I have such form in the future!… May I have such consciousness in the future!’ It is in such a way that one is without expectations.

“And how, householder, does one engage people in dispute? Here, householder, someone engages in such talk as this: ‘You don’t understand this Dhamma and Discipline. I understand this Dhamma and Discipline. What, you understand this Dhamma and Discipline! You’re practising wrongly, I’m practising rightly. What should have been said before you said after; what should have been said after you said before. I’m consistent, you’re inconsistent. What you took so long to think out has been overturned. Your thesis has been refuted. Go off to rescue your thesis, for you’re defeated, or disentangle yourself if you can.’ It is in such a way that one engages people in dispute.

“And how, householder, does one not engage people in dispute? Here, householder, someone does not engage in such talk as this: ‘You don’t understand this Dhamma and Discipline…. ‘ It is in such a way that one does not engage people in dispute.

“Thus, householder, when it was said by the Blessed One in ‘The Questions of Magandiya’ of the Aṭṭhakavagga:

‘Having left home to roam without abode,
In the village the sage is intimate with none;
Rid of sensual pleasures, without expectations,
He would not engage people in dispute’—

It is in such a way that the meaning of this, stated in brief by the Blessed One, should be understood in detail.”

Bodhi note 22:

22 I read the long compound with Be and Se rupanimittaniketa-
visiiravinibandhu. Ee has -Sara- in place of -visara-. The inter-
pretation is as difficult as it looks. I have unravelled it with
the aid of Spk, which explains: "Form itself is the ‘sign’
(nimitta) in the sense that it is a condition for defilements,
and it is also the abode (consisting in) the ‘sign of forms,’
being an abode in the sense of a dwelling place, namely,
for the act of objectification. By the two terms ‘diffusion
and confinement’ (visara-vinibandhu) what is meant is the
expansion of defilements and their confining (or binding)
nature. (Thus the full compound should be resolved:) ‘dif-
fusion and confinement in the abode (consisting in) the
sign of forms.’ Hence the meaning is: ‘by the diffusion of
defilements, and by the bondage of defilements arisen in
the abode (consisting in) the sign of forms.’

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Samyutta Nikaya, Khandavagga, 3. Hāliddakāni) :

“And how, householder, does one roam about in an abode?
By diffusion and confinement in the abode [consisting in] the nimitta of visible object, one is called one who roams about in an abode. [22]
… in the nimitta of sound … ,
… in the the nimitta of smell … ,
… in the nimitta of taste … ,
… in the nimitta of tangible object … ,
… in the nimitta of mind object, one is called one who roams about in an abode.

“And how, householder, does one roam about without abode?
Diffusion and confinement in the abode [consisting in] the nimitta of visible object: these have been abandoned by the Tathāgata, cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated so that they are no more subject to future arising. Therefore the Tathāgata is called one who roams about without abode.
… in the the nimitta of smell … ,
… in the nimitta of taste … ,
… in the nimitta of tangible object … ,
… in the nimitta of mind object: these have been abandoned by the Tathāgata, cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, [11] obliterated so that they are no more subject to future arising. Therefore the Tathāgata is called one who roams about without abode. It is in such a way that one roams about without abode.[2]3

[22]Spk: “Visible object itself is the nimitta in the sense that it is a condition for defilements, and it is also the abode (consisting in) the ‘nimitta of visible object,’ being an abode in the sense of a dwelling place, namely, for the act of objectification.
By the two terms ‘diffusion and confinement’ (visāra-vinibandha) what is meant is the expansion of defilements and their confining (or binding) nature.
(Thus the full compound should be resolved:) ‘diffusion and confinement in the abode (consisting in) the nimitta of visible object.’ Hence the meaning is: ‘by the diffusion of defilements, and by the bondage of defilements arisen in the abode (consisting in) the visible object.’
One is called ‘one who roams about in an abode’: one is called ‘one who roams about in a dwelling place’ by making (visible object) an object.”

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Nina van Gorkom — Once upon a Time (2014)
Excerpt from Chapter 5: “Thinking of the Past”

Source: van Gorkom, Nina. (2014). Once upon a Time, Chapter 5, “Thinking of the Past.”
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Life goes on without understanding the truth. Seeing sees visible object and because of our delusion we think that we see people who seem to be already there. It also seems that seeing can stay, that we are seeing all the time. Ignorance covers up the truth. Seeing falls away immediately, but since dhammas arise and fall away so rapidly it seems that the different moments of seeing that arise again and again are one period of time that lasts for a while. Understanding can be developed of the characteristic of seeing and there is no need to pinpoint in what process it has arisen.

Seeing falls away but the sign (in Pali: nimitta) of seeing remains. Even so visible object falls away but the sign or nimitta of visible object remains. The nimitta covers up the truth of realities which arise and fall away very rapidly in succession. No one can really directly experience one particular reality, because there are so many realities arising and falling away. The rapid succession of dhammas, such as visible object, leads to the experience or impression of shape and form and to the idea of people and things. A simile can be used to explain this: when we take a torch that we swing around we notice a circle of light. In fact what we take for a circle of light consists of many moments, but it seems to be a continuous whole. There is a reality that can be seen and paññā begins to understand that what is seen cannot be any one at all. Only memory and thinking condition the idea of someone or something.

The term saṅkhāra nimitta, the sign of conditioned dhammas [25] pertains to the fact that each of the five khandhas [26] which arise and fall away has a nimitta: rūpa-nimitta, vedanā-nimitta (feeling), saññā-nimitta (remembrance), saṅkhāra-nimitta (the other fifty cetasikas apart from feeling and saññā) [27] and viññāṇa-nimitta (citta). Since nibbāna does not arise and fall away it is without nimitta, it is animitta.

Conditioned dhamma falls away but the nimitta remains. It is a sign or nimitta of the reality that arises and falls away, but we do not realize the arising and falling away. We mislead ourselves, taking for permanent what is impermanent. We take for self what is beyond control. There is no need to think all the time: “it is a nimitta” or, “the reality has fallen away”. Characteristics are appearing and they can be investigated.

Saṅkhāra nimitta denotes a nimitta of a reality appearing right now. The reality and its nimitta can be compared to a sound and its echo. We should remember what Acharn said:

“The reality and the nimitta of it appear like sound and its echo, who knows which is which? Instead of finding out whether nimitta is a paramattha dhamma, know that it is now. No one can pinpoint a moment of experiencing an object or the object itself.”

We learn to be aware of characteristics of dhammas that appear but knowing about nimitta makes it clearer that dhammas fall away so fast. It helps to understand their nature of anattā, they are beyond control. What has arisen is gone already before we realize it. “Once upon a time” can be seen as an extremely short moment ago. We can remember what Acharn said long ago:

“We have dear people, people who are close to us, but dhamma arises and then falls away. Seeing has fallen away and there is nothing left. Thinking and all dhammas fall away completely. This is not different from the moment a dear person dies. We are thinking about a dear person but thinking falls away completely.”

The colour that appears through the eyes is the nimitta, the sign referring to the visible object that is accompanied by the four Great Elements of Earth (solidity), Water (cohesion), Fire (temperature) and Wind (motion). There is a great variety of the four Great Elements, and since they have different degrees of hardness, softness, heat or cold, it is a condition for the nimittas to be varied. Whenever visible object appears or seeing appears, there is the sign of the rapidly arising and falling away of realities. A single moment of seeing cannot be experienced.

The succession of the arising and falling away of visible object leads to an idea of continuity, the perceiving of shape and form. Acharn explained:

“ Memory just marks and forms up the idea of a particular shape and form of this or that person. It is all that can be seen. Close your eyes and there is no more that which can be seen.

…Without reality there is no nimitta but the arising and falling away is so rapid that it cannot be directly experienced.”

Because of wrong remembrance of self, attā-saññā, the nimitta is taken for something. Concepts are thought of because of different nimittas. Sarah also gave some more explanations:

“Thinking has an idea of shape and form and that leads to the idea of eyebrows, people and things. Without experiencing visible object many times there could not be the sign of visible object and without that sign there could not be thinking about the outward appearance and details of things. One thinks of concepts of people and things on account of what is seen.”

When we have no understanding there are just concepts about realities as permanent phenomena which don’t arise and fall away instantly. When we have more understanding of nimitta, we see that whatever we experience arises for a moment and is then completely gone. We cannot hold on to it. Acharn said:

“That is life. No matter how happy or unhappy we are, all these moments are gone. What we take for so very important in life is gone. Such moments are just objects of ignorance and attachment. What is the use of experiencing all these realities at this moment? Understanding this is the beginning of seeing dukkha, which is the arising and falling away of realities. Each conditioned reality is dukkha. It just arises and falls away and it cannot be controlled. It is time to eat, to sleep, to move, to think, but we have an idea that ‘I will do this’. We can come to understand the paññā of the Buddha and his compassion to teach, to let others understand whatever appears.”

At the end of my stay in Thailand a short visit to Chiengmai was planned and I wanted to join this. We took the plane and stayed one night, but there were two full days of Dhamma discussions. I had been to Chiengmai before and, thus, it was a happy meeting again with old friends. We had lunch in the cultural center where we were offered traditional Northern dishes, like bamboo filled with pork and a great variety of vegetables. The sessions were in an auditorium in the hotel where we stayed overnight. I had to climb a podium with very steep steps, but people assisted me from all sides.

Acharn explained about nimitta that when seeing, there is clinging to the nimitta as something or somebody. The impingement of visible object on the eyesense is a condition for seeing that arises and falls away very rapidly. Because of the arising and falling away again and again a nimitta or sign of continuity appears. She said:

“There is a nimitta of different shapes and forms. Saññā remembers them wrongly as something that stays. There is wrong remembrance of self, attā-saññā. Concepts are known because of different nimittas. Because of a concept we know what something is. Because of thinking of nimitta we know when and where there is food. If there is no reality, there is no nimitta and no shape and form.”

We have to know the extent of our understanding and if we try to find out more than we can understand, we are clinging again. When understanding develops we can let go of clinging very gradually. We have possessions in our house but do we have them now? We are only thinking of them. When we return home, they may not be there anymore. We should develop understanding with courage and cheerfulness. People mostly follow their own ideas and do not study the teachings with respect. Therefore, the teachings will dwindle and disappear.

The last afternoon, before our departure, one of our friends sang a song in honour of Acharn. She praised her wisdom in explaining the Dhamma to all of us. The song was very charming with a melody in the Northern style of music. When we were at the airport on our way back we waited in the VIP room where we had a Dhamma discussion for another hour. People showed a great interest and had many questions.

Acharn reminded us again of the Buddha’s last words, saying that we should not be neglectful, also with regard to listening to the Dhamma. There are dhammas all the time but we do not know that they are dhammas. Their different characteristics should be investigated.

The Buddha taught the four noble Truths: the Truth of dukkha, the Truth of the origin of dukkha, the Truth of the cessation of dukkha and the Truth of the Path leading to the cessation of dukkha.

Dukkha is the arising and falling away of dhammas. What arises and falls away is not worth clinging to, it is unsatisfactory. The origin or cause of dukkha is craving, because of craving we have to reborn and that means the arising and falling away of nāma and rūpa again and again. The cessation of dukkha is nibbāna and the Path leading thereto is the eightfold Path.

Paññā has to be developed on and on for aeons before the four noble Truths can be penetrated. The Buddha showed in his first sermon [28] that there are three phases in the development of understanding and these pertain to each of the four noble Truths. There are three “rounds” or inter-twining phases of the understanding of the four noble Truths. They are: understanding of the truth, sacca ñāṇa, knowledge of the task to be performed, kicca ñāṇa, which is the development of understanding of realities, and knowledge of the task that has been done, kata ñāṇa, which is the direct realization of the truth.

Acharn referred very often to these three “rounds” or phases and explained that without the first phase, sacca ñāṇa, the firm understanding of what the four noble Truths are, there cannot be the second phase, kicca ñāṇa, the performing of the task, that is, satipaṭṭhāna, nor the third phase, kata ñāṇa, the fruit of the practice, that is, the penetration of the true nature of realities.

With regard to the first phase, she said that there should be the firm intellectual understanding of the first noble Truth, and that means understanding that there is dhamma at this moment, that everything that appears is dhamma. Acharn said that it must be the firm understanding that seeing arises and falls away, and that we should not be ignorant of seeing. All dhammas should be known, otherwise the idea of self cannot be eradicated. She said:

“Who sees? When anattā is understood it is the beginning of the right Path.”

When we listen to the Dhamma and consider what we hear the intellectual understanding of realities, that is, the first phase, sacca ñāṇa, gradually develops and then it can condition the arising of satipaṭṭhāna. This means that the second phase, knowledge of the task, kicca ñāṇa, begins to develop. The practice, paṭipatti, is actually knowledge of the task that has to be performed.

The second noble Truth is craving or attachment. Craving or clinging in daily life should be understood. The clinging to self has been deeply accumulated and we should consider this more. We cling to satipaṭṭhāna and this can induce wrong practice. We should learn at what moment this occurs, the test is always at this moment. Understanding of what appears at the present moment through one of the six doorways leads eventually to the abandonment of craving. Seeing, for example appears now and it can be known as only a conditioned dhamma, no self who sees. However, attachment takes us away from the present object, time and again, so that we are forgetful of seeing that appears now. Also attachment can be known as a dhamma.

The ceasing of dukkha, namely nibbāna, is the third noble Truth. Also with regard to the third noble Truth there are three phases: understanding what the ceasing of dukkha is, sacca ñāṇa. Paññā can come to see the danger and disadvantage of the arising and falling away of conditioned dhammas and it will see the unconditioned dhamma that does not arise and fall away as freedom from dukkha. We should have the firm understanding that detachment and the eradication of defilements is the goal. We should be convinced that it is possible to attain this goal only if we follow the right Path. Understanding of the task in order to reach this goal is kicca ñāṇa. At the moment of enlightenment nibbāna is experienced and defilements are eradicated. Understanding of the task which has been performed, the realization of nibbāna, is kata ñāṇa.

The way leading to the ceasing of dukkha, namely the eightfold Path, is the fourth noble Truth. Also with regard to the fourth noble Truth there are three phases or rounds. The first round is understanding what the development of this Path is, sacca ñāṇa. This is not theoretical understanding, but it pertains to the development of understanding of the dhamma appearing at this moment. Nāma and rūpa, paramattha dhammas, are the objects of which understanding should be developed. These are different from concepts, from the image of a ‘whole’ of a person, of the body, of a thing. When there is firm understanding of what the Path is, we shall not deviate from it.

The teaching of the three phases shows us that the development of paññā is bound to be an age-long process. We need to develop it with courage and patience.

Acharn was invited to speak at the “World Fellowship of Buddhists”. I went to their center with Jonothan. It was a long taxi drive because at that time several streets were blocked during anti-government demonstrations. We had to walk through a park to reach the place.

Acharn said:

“Reality is very daily. It should be studied, otherwise we never know the truth. Does anything belong to you? Even seeing does not belong to you. Right understanding, when it arises, begins to see realities as no being. Seeing is seeing. At the moment of hearing there is no seeing. Is sound real? It has its own characteristic. Nobody can change the characteristics of realities. When one has not heard the Dhamma one thinks: ’I see a person’. Visible object is a reality that is seen and after that one thinks of shape and form because of saññā. Each moment is conditioned. Understanding is conditioned.”

Several people showed a real interest and asked questions. We discussed the fact that it is not by chance that someone comes to a particular place at a particular time to listen to the Dhamma. It must be because there was an interest in the past and this has been accumulated so that there are conditions to listen again, to consider again. In this way understanding can grow.

The Buddha taught anattā all the time. Anattā of what? Of realities or dhammas. We should not think so much about names and terms, but understand the reality represented by a name. We may stare at the texts but it may happen that the meaning escapes us. Then we may go all the wrong way, and this is very dangerous.

When reading suttas it may seem that the Buddha spoke about impermanence of concepts, such as persons or possessions, but this was the method of teaching to certain people who needed first conventional truth until they were ready to accept ultimate truth (paramattha sacca). So, he often spoke about people in different situations.

When reading about conventional truth we can consider the deeper meaning, the truth of realities.

When people had deep sorrow about the loss of dear ones, they needed at first a gentle approach by way of situations and persons. Not everybody is ready to accept the truth that each reality falls away very rapidly, never to come back, and that there is nothing left. When we read in the suttas about death we can be reminded of momentary death. At each moment dhammas arise and then fall away never to return. If we believe that people stay or that possessions are there all the time, we live in a dream.

We read in the “Sutta Nipāta”, the Group of Discourses, the Chapter of Eights, IV, Old Age, vs. 804-813 [29]:

“ Truly this life is short; one dies less than one hundred years old. Even if anyone lives beyond (one hundred years), then he dies because of old age.

People grieve for their cherished things, for no possessions are permanent. Seeing that this separation truly exists, one should not live the household life.

Whatever a man thinks of as ‘mine’, that too disappears with his death. Knowing thus indeed, a wise man, one of my followers, would not incline to possessiveness.

Just as a man, awakened, does not see whatever he met with in a dream, even so one does not see beloved people when they are dead and gone.

Those people are seen and heard of, whose name is ‘so and so’. When he has departed, only a person’s name will remain to be pronounced. Those who are greedy for cherished things do not abandon grief, lamentation and avarice.

Therefore the sages, seeing security, have wandered forth, abandoning possessions. Of a bhikkhu who lives in a withdrawn manner, resorting to a secluded residence, of him they say it is agreeable that he should not show himself in any dwelling.

Not being dependent upon anything, a sage holds nothing as being pleasant or unpleasant. Lamentation and avarice do not cling to him, as water does not cling to a (lotus)-leaf.

Just as a drop of water does not cling to a lotus(-leaf), as water does not cling to a lotus, so a sage does not cling to what is seen or heard or thought.

Therefore a purified one does not think that purity is by means of what is seen, heard or thought, nor does he wish for purity by anything else. He is neither empassioned nor dispassioned.”

The commentary explains as to the words “a bhikkhu who lives in a withdrawn manner”, that he practises so that the citta becomes detached. The word bhikkhu refers to the “excellent worldling” (kalyāṇa putthujana) or the “trainer” (sekha puggala, the ariyan who is not arahat). As to not showing himself in any dwelling, this means that the wise person is free from dying, he does not have to be reborn.

The development of understanding of whatever reality appears now leads to detachment. As we read: “A sage does not cling to what is seen or heard or thought”. He understands realities as they are.


Original footnotes

Original numbering retained. Footnote 24 accompanies the paragraph immediately preceding this excerpt.

24. “Dispeller of Delusion,” Commentary to the Book of Analysis, Classification of the Truths, 101.

25. The “Path of Discrimination” (“Patisambhidhamagga”), I, 438 speaks about seeing as terror the signs of each of the five khandhas, whereas nibbāna is animitta, without sign. Saṅkhāra nimitta also occurs in the Visuddhimagga XXI, 38.

26. All conditioned dhammas, saṅkhāra dhammas, can be classified as five different khandhas or aggregates. One khandha is rūpa, and four are nāma.

27. In this context saṅkhāra refers to saṅkhārakkhandha. The term saṅkhāra dhammas refers to all conditioned dhammas, to all khandhas. Saṅkhārakkhandha refers to one khandha, the khandha of “formations”.

28. Kindred Sayings, V, 420. The Foundation of the Kingdom of the Norm.

29. Translated by K.R. Norman, PTS 1992.

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