Right effort and anatta

This is just an error in cognition and does not signify the rope is independent of consciousness. It just means the mind has misidentified a stimulus.

Our entire discussion has been silly. All I’ve ever said is that objects, including forms, perceptions, vedana…all objects arise with consciousness. There is no object you can point to that arises independent of your consciousness. In the same way the Buddha goes through each of the five khandas in the Anatta-lakkhana Sutta and says, “Form is not self…vedana is not self…perceptions are not self…sankharas are not self…consciousness is not self” one by one, I’m doing the same here. "This object has arisen in consciousness, that object has arisen in consciousness, this object has fallen from consciousness and now the memory of that object has arisen in consciousness, that object has fallen from consciousness and now the memory of that object has arisen in consciousness. It’s actually closer to “with consciousness,” but you get the idea.

This is literally the case. I’m ending the conversation in this thread too and I will not respond because you’re simply not getting it.