I saw this on dhammawheel
I always had difficulty understanding how ceasing the 3 first fetters - Personality-belief, Skeptical Doubt, Attachment to mere Rules and Rituals - could mean anything to anyone. Rather no bar. Because thereby not an iota of craving - the cause of suffering - is done with
This topic can study the bolded attachment. It is an aspect of view.
The Sammohavinodani (page227):
“The ordinary man is like a madman and without considering ‘Is this
right or not’ and aspiring by means of clinging …he performs any
of the kinds of kamma [good or bad]…
Thus silabataparamasa
[clinging to rules and rituals]is a condition for all three, namely
the sense desire world, fine material and immaterial kinds of
existence with their divisions and what they include”
from tam bach
06/15/14 #135706
I am editing the translations of the discussions in Vietnam last Sept, just
come accross this part which is relevant to our dicussion:B: When there’s no understanding, there is always trying. Even when I
come to meet Ajahn, I am motivated by the idea to come to get more
understanding for my-self.Ajahn Sujin: It has to be be like this until wrong understanding is eradicated
completely. In Tipitaka, there is the term silabata paramassa, which means
wrong path or wrong practice even in those who understand the teaching.
Because whatever arises is conditioned, as long as there is the idea of
self, there must be moment which tries. Even right now, there can be the
intention to be aware. Right understanding can see that is not right,
because intention is not a factor of the Eightfold Path. By understanding
this, there will be the letting go of the wanting to try or having the
intention to do… Only a sotapana is the one who has eradicated silabata
paramassa completely and absolutely, but panna will keep one on the right
track because it knows that this is not right, not right, not right. So it
begins again and again, to understand more firmly that what ever appears
is conditioned. It takes quite a long long time to have the firm
understanding which is sacca nana. Because panna can see and know every
time ditthi arises.
This is a very important point because this arises even in those who understand the Dhamma…
This speaks to how much akusala we really have.
R