Sabbe saṅkhārā anattā or Sabbe dhamma anattā?

[Dhamma001]

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And did the Buddha said “Self” and “Nonself” are something that we need to go beyond? This might just means that we need to attain the understanding of “Self” and “Nonself” and then only go beyond. What is that “beyond”?

If that’s Nibbana, aren’t Nibbāna is nonself too? Is Nibbāna a thing that we need to go beyond?

Bhante, that’s what we’re discussing.

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''Sabbe saṅkhārā anattā’'ti jānato passato paññāyete

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"Sabbe saṅkhārā anattā"ti, yadā paññāya passati,

That is translated as “phenomena (dhammas)” and probably became Sabbe Dhamma later.

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The original version provides translation of “Sabbe sankhara anatta” ti but it becomes ‘dhamma’ and phenomena, which should not be.

Verse 279: “All phenomena (dhammas) are without Self”…

The assumption of the author of a book in the quote provides some clue.

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Book: The Five Aggregates: Understanding Theravada Psychology and Soteriology
The Five Aggregates (Page 94)