Fall of Western Civilization

AI is being quite informative today:

"The Greek historian who most directly tackled your question about the systematic transformation of states is Polybius (c. 200 – c. 118 BCE), who developed a detailed theory of political revolution known as anacyclosis .

However, the concept of political decline was a major theme in Greek thought, and you can find foundational ideas in the works of Thucydides and Plato as well. Here is a breakdown of how each writer approached the transformation of empires, nations, and democracies.

:scroll: Polybius: The Cycle of Constitutions (Anacyclosis)

Polybius wrote his Histories to explain how and why Rome rose to dominate the Mediterranean in just 53 years . He believed this was due to Rome’s mixed constitution , which blended monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy into a stable system .

To argue for the superiority of this mixed system, Polybius laid out the theory of anacyclosis —a natural cycle through which all simple (or “benign”) forms of government inevitably degenerate . The cycle proceeds in a specific sequence:

  1. Monarchy (rule by one) :right_arrow: degenerates into Tyranny (abusive rule by one).
  2. Tyranny is overthrown by the nobles, creating Aristocracy (rule by the best) :right_arrow: which degenerates into Oligarchy (rule by a few for selfish gain).
  3. Oligarchy is overthrown by the people, creating Democracy (rule by the many) :right_arrow: which degenerates into Ochlocracy (mob-rule).
  4. Ochlocracy leads to chaos, and a strong leader restores order, returning the cycle to Monarchy .

In this cycle, Polybius directly addresses your point about political structures breaking into “other systems,” as he saw democracy as inherently unstable and prone to collapse into mob-rule and then tyranny. He argued that only a mixed constitution could break this cycle."


I had not realized that Machiavelli was alluding to Polybius and Plato when he laid out his ideas on politicas in The History of Florence, and spoke of the “many who have written of governments”:

“Desiring, therefore, to discuss the nature of the government of Rome, and to ascertain the accidental circumstances which brought it to its perfection, I say, as has been said before by many who have written of Governments, that of these there are three forms, known by the names Monarchy, Aristocracy, and Democracy, and that those who give its institutions to a State have recourse to one or other of these three, according as it suits their purpose. Other, and, as many have thought, wiser teachers, will have it, that there are altogether six forms of government, three of them utterly bad, the other three good in themselves, but so readily corrupted that they too are apt to become hurtful. The good are the three above named; the bad, three others dependent upon these, and each so like that to which it is related, that it is easy to pass imperceptibly from the one to the other. For a Monarchy readily becomes a Tyranny, an Aristocracy an Oligarchy, while a Democracy tends to degenerate into Anarchy. So that if the founder of a State should establish any one of these three forms of Government, he establishes it for a short time only, since no precaution he may take can prevent it from sliding into its contrary, by reason of the close resemblance which, in this case, the virtue bears to the vice.”

Machiavelli, Niccolò. Discourses (pp. 7-8). Open Road Media. Kindle Edition.

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And lifestyles certainly changed, like in the lost kingdom of Powys:

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This is interesting. The world will eventually return to monarchy. In the time of the Buddha Metteyya, there will be a universal monarch who will rule the world.

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It does not seem a valid inference to say that:

“Polybius wrote in Histories, Book VI, in the 2nd century BC that there was a predictable cycle of government-types”

“Therefore, there will be a world monarchy in the future under Maitreya”


Polybius was not omniscient and what thoughts/beliefs arose in his mind were conditioned based on the understanding he had.

There are other factors to be considered. For one, it seems unlikely that one person would have the time to manage all the affairs in the whole world.

The suttas do say Wheel turning/universal monarchs are real and arise in the world, usually when the humans are virtuous and the lifespan is very long. He is able to travel to other places through the power of the wheel and instruct other kings to observe the five precepts.

He not only rules the known world but also places we can’t travel without psychic powers such as Uttarakuru and other 3 great continents. Our known world is Jambudipa. It is only here that we can practice the holy life.

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It could happen very quickly indeed from overunning tipping points of climate. There is a website Nature bats last. Look it up. The runaway climate is actually increasing in its rate of change. I first heard about climate change back in 1979 in a lecture at University. Since then everything humans have done has actually increased the danger of us destroying the biosphere to a point where we are already in a mass extinction event. So far we are able to hold out but Nature will win and we will lose. Don’t worry about western civilisation the whole game will fall over. In any biological system a rapid growth in population is a J curve that results in eventual collapse. But all the mass extinctions of the past did not wipe out everything and from the 5% or so of life that remains nature reconstructs again. We live in a house of cards. It will collapse one day. Best to do good deeds whilst you can and attain critical mass of kamma to not get reborn. You ain’t seen nothing yet. The world is full of histories of rising and falling of civilisations but world civilisation now is all based on using up nature faster than it it replaced. Make merit whilst the sun shines.

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