Can the Kamma of a person be exhausted while their physical body continues its existence?

  1. The death of a physical body of a human does not mean its existence as a human has ended. If there is remaining “kammic energy” for the human bhava left, the mental body (gandhabba) will come from the dead physical body and will wait for another suitable womb.
  • However, if the “kammic energy for the present human bhava” is exhausted at the time of death, the transition to the next “bhava” or existence happens at the dying moment. If that new existence is that of a cat, a “cat gandhabba” will leave the dead body.

When the arahant achieves liberation from future rebirth, do they still continue their physical existence within the material plane ? If such a realized person were to attempt to conceive a child, would they be unable to do so because their biological material no longer possesses kammic energy, or they would be “ineligible” for procreation as to not have any future kammic imprint?

Living arahants clearly still has a body.

Arahants cannot have sex. What I assume you’re asking is that if someone were to extract some sperm from a male arahant or an egg from female arahant via needle.

What does procreation has to do with the kamma of the parent?

  1. Living arahants still has past kammas which ripens.
  2. Kamma is personal. It doesn’t pass down to children.
  3. The being to be reborn must have past kamma, even arahants until death is still having past kamma ripening.

When does all past kamma completely seize to ripen? Are there examples of Arahants who passed away having no more past kamma? Did the Buddha still have past kamma ripening prior to Parinibbana?

Understood, as per rules & allowances. But, technically it is still a physical possibility.

Theoretically, a person whose kamma has fully ripened and they have exhausted it in their current lifetime, if they continue living, are they able to conceive or their biological material is “empty” of required kamma?

This doesn’t sound like Theravada Buddhism.

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Because it isn’t.
It’s Lalism.

@iviscun, I strongly recommend against reading anything “puredhamma”. I think there’s a topic here discussing his “interpretations”.

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When there’s no body nor mind. After parinibbāna.

All the arahants. Or if they have left, there’s no body or mind for kamma to ripen, so effectively no more kamma.

Yes.

Yes, if they are raped, maybe while sleeping, and the hardening is not due to lust but normal biological functioning. Seriously, this is not a pleasant thing to think about.

Impossible. Differentiate between arahants cannot create new kamma vs old kamma still ripens until death. If all past kamma is ripened, the person basically can die already. To keep on living, there must be a kammic force to sustain the lifeforce.

You don’t seem to understand how rebirth happens.

Biological process is biological process. Don’t bring in kamma. Any biological process follows the laws of biology. There’s no reason why a sperm or egg from an arahant cannot produce new life.

The being to be reborn is following their own kamma. Their kamma brings them to the suitable body according to their kamma. Once the sperm and egg merge, and the body is suitable, the being to be reborn gets established there, due to the being to be reborn’s kamma. The parent’s kamma has nothing to do with this process.

Please tell me where you get nonsensical views that parent’s kamma matters for procreation.

Well buddha did talk about gandhabba but this interpretation is new for me …
Buddha said to any being born there should be male , female and gandhabba should be present

Can you point me to where this topic discussion on the puredhamma website is on this forum?

@iviscun

Here:

and here:

You can find links to Dhammawheel and other websites where Lal (the creator and author of “puredhamma”) and Waharaka (his teacher, altho they never really met Lal calls him ‘my teacher’) are discussed.

Many have tried reasoning with Lal (including me), but to no avail.

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