# What do you think of those who say there's nothing after the end of namarupa?

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**Created:** [February 28, 2024, 10:50am UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/what-do-you-think-of-those-who-say-theres-nothing-after-the-end-of-namarupa/1131 "2024-02-28T10:50:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![RobertK](https://classicaltheravada.org/user_avatar/classicaltheravada.org/robertk/32/1498_2.png) [@RobertK](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/RobertK)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/what-do-you-think-of-those-who-say-theres-nothing-after-the-end-of-namarupa/1131/47 "2024-03-27T02:13:49Z")

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> [@RobertK](#):
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> Bhikkhu Bodhi: I do not know of any texts that qualify such assertions or distinguish between two types of consciousness—phenomenal and transcendental, conditioned and unconditioned. Rather, they assert unequivocally that consciousness arises in dependence on conditions; that it is impermanent, dukkha, and subject to change. **And they say that with the attainment of final nibbāna, consciousness ceases without remainder.**

Reading Venerable Bodhi’s note we can see that his conclusions are based on Suttanta, Abhidhamma and Commentary. Of course some might feel his emphasis leans to the side of either annihilationism or eternalism but that may be because we have our own bias to either side ( for example do we focus on the fact that Nibbāna does not arise, or are we focused on the fact that Nibbāna does not cease)…

I am closing this thread at this stage but anyone is welcome to start a new thread on a related topic.

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