Waharaka movement and puredhamma.net: warning

Re: The teachings of Ven. Waharaka Abhayaratanalankara Thero

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:55 am

rajitha7 wrote:If we plug-in your idea into this Sutta with “No self” and “self”, the Sutta will read thus.

Monks, I will teach you about what is of self and what is no self. Please listen attentively …
What, monks, is of no self? Wrong View … Wrong Liberation — this, monks, I call of no self. And what, monks, is of self? Right View … Right Liberation. — This, monks, I call of self.

Now tell me which version makes sense to you please?

Pesala: No. That’s what you will get if you use Lal’s version. Mine is correct.

Lal wrote:5. Then in the very next sutta, Attha Sutta (AN 181; in the Sadhuvagga) anattä is defined in terms of dasa akusala:

“…katamo ca bhikkhave, anattö? panatipatö, adinnädänaṃ, kämesu­miccha­cärö, musävädö, pisuṇä väcä, parusä vacä, samphappaläpö, abhijjhä, vyäpädö, micchädiṭṭhi – ayam vuccati, bhikkhave, anattö…”
Thus one becomes anatta (helpless) by engaging in dasa akusala.
In the next and last paragraph of the sutta, atta defined as the opposite of that: panatipatä veramani, adinnädänä veramani, kämesu­miccha­cärä veramani, musävädä veramani, pisuṇä väcä veramani, parusä vacä veramani, samphappaläpä veramani, abhijjhä veramani, vyäpäda veramani, sammaädiṭṭhi – ayam vuccati, bhikkhave, attö. ‘ti.
Thus one becomes atta (leading to refuge in Nibbana) by engaging in dasa kusala.
6. Those two short suttas make it crystal clear the following important facts:
Anatta has nothing to do with a “self”.
Anatta is all about being helpless in the rebirth process due to one’s engagements with dasa akusala.
Therefore, getting to Nibbana is all about avoiding dasa akusala, i.e., cleansing one’s mind.

Do take more care. The pair of you are helpless and the site is full of errors of both spelling and interpretation.

Avoiding dasa akusala is indeed vital. However, atta means self, and anatta means not-self. Attha means welfare or benefit, while anattha means without welfare or benefit. The ten unwholesome deeds are entirely without welfare or benefit.

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