# Access Concentration **URL:** \ **Category:** General Theravada topics\ **Created:** [April 15, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307 "2026-04-15T12:50:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/67e7ee/32.png) [@HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/HappinessSeeker)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/1 "2026-04-15T12:50:25Z")
Is access concentration needed for rebirth into high sensual heavens like Tusita, Nirmāṇarati Heaven, Paranimmitavasavatti Heaven? Is drowsiness a bad last thought? If someone is asleep at the last moments and is dreaming random thoughts and there is a lot of confusion, can they still be reborn in heaven just through the sheer good deeds they have done or do they need some level of concentration(at least the level of nimitta) to have a heavenly rebirth? When I’m dreaming, I usually dream random thoughts like a madman and I forget about the Dhamma. Will this be bad if this was a last thought moment. ---
**Author:** ![Hara](https://classicaltheravada.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hara](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/Hara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 11:11pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/2 "2026-04-15T23:11:46Z")
Part of addressing your worry is disentangling the two influences on rebirth – - How big an influence is state-of-mind at the moment of death? - How big an influence are the accumulated habits of a lifetime? ---
**Author:** ![renaldo](https://classicaltheravada.org/user_avatar/classicaltheravada.org/renaldo/32/2033_2.png) [@renaldo](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/renaldo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/3 "2026-04-17T15:51:55Z")
> [@HappinessSeeker](#): > > Is access concentration needed for rebirth into high sensual heavens like Tusita, Nirmāṇarati Heaven, Paranimmitavasavatti Heaven? I believe there will have to be _kāmāvacara kusala citta_ of a very high degree in the last mind-door process of this life (which will subsequently condition the _cuti citta_ of this life, which will condition the _paṭisandhi citta_ of the next life) to condition that. What about the _citta_ arising now? Is it a _kusala_ or _akusala_ _citta_? _Vipāka_ maybe? Kiriyacitta? R ---
**Author:** ![HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/67e7ee/32.png) [@HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/HappinessSeeker)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 3:58pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/4 "2026-04-17T15:58:58Z")
> [@renaldo](#): > > I believe there will have to be _kāmāvacara kusala citta_ of a very high degree in the last mind-door process of this life (which will subsequently condition the _cuti citta_ of this life, which will condition the _paṭisandhi citta_ of the next life) to condition that. Would I need the combined effort of all kusala kamma to reborn in a high heavenly realm or is one strong kusala kamma enough? Can Dana and Sila kamma be stronger than the kamma of access concentration? > [@renaldo](#): > > What about the _citta_ arising now? Is it a _kusala_ or _akusala_ _citta_? _Vipāka_ maybe? Kiriyacitta? Probably only kusala, akusala, and vipaka. ---
**Author:** ![renaldo](https://classicaltheravada.org/user_avatar/classicaltheravada.org/renaldo/32/2033_2.png) [@renaldo](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/renaldo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 6:04pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/5 "2026-04-17T18:04:03Z")
> [@HappinessSeeker](#): > > Would I need the combined effort of all kusala kamma to reborn in a high heavenly realm or is one strong kusala kamma enough? It all depends on conditions. Any of those could condition the _kāmāvacara_ _kusala_ _citta_ I spoke about. Thy might also condition the _vipāka_ experienced in the next life, or later, or in this one, perhaps. It simply depends on conditions. There is no doer, no agent, just impersonal elements. > [@HappinessSeeker](#): > > Probably only kusala, akusala, and vipaka. There can only be one _citta_ at a time. R ---
**Author:** ![HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/67e7ee/32.png) [@HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/HappinessSeeker)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 6:07pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/6 "2026-04-17T18:07:58Z")
> [@renaldo](#): > > There can only be one _citta_ at a time. I meant that the cittas that arise for us throughout our day would be of those types mentioned ---
**Author:** ![renaldo](https://classicaltheravada.org/user_avatar/classicaltheravada.org/renaldo/32/2033_2.png) [@renaldo](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/renaldo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 1:08am UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/7 "2026-04-18T01:08:13Z")
> [@HappinessSeeker](#): > > I meant that the cittas that arise for us throughout our day would be of those types mentioned We all have _kiriyacittas_ very frequently. I think you might be thinking of _maha-kiriyacittas_, which have a similar name but are different. There are eight types of _maha-kiriya cittas_ and they all arise in _Arahants_ only. They are _kiriya_ (“inoperable”) because Arahants do not create _kamma_. R ---
**Author:** ![HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/67e7ee/32.png) [@HappinessSeeker](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/HappinessSeeker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 1:14am UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/8 "2026-04-18T01:14:46Z")
Oh, that makes sense. Thank you for the correction! ---
**Author:** ![gregk](https://classicaltheravada.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@gregk](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/gregk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 4:36am UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/access-concentration/2307/9 "2026-04-18T04:36:00Z")
All you have to do is keep 5 precepts well and one of the benefits of that is that you will die unconfused. When you go to sleep you can reflect on the qualities of the Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha in your mind. That should make your last conscious moments be wholesome. Metta can help too as even your dreams will be full of metta. All these simple kusala actions you do in this life will produce great fruit wherever you are reborn.