# Abhidhamma "is not suitable as insight Training for the ordinary person" ? - Ledi Sayadaw **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [October 15, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/abhidhamma-is-not-suitable-as-insight-training-for-the-ordinary-person-ledi-sayadaw/1494 "2024-10-15T17:07:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![RobertK](https://classicaltheravada.org/user_avatar/classicaltheravada.org/robertk/32/1498_2.png) [@RobertK](https://classicaltheravada.org/u/RobertK)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/abhidhamma-is-not-suitable-as-insight-training-for-the-ordinary-person-ledi-sayadaw/1494/6 "2025-02-23T14:01:32Z")
Dear Thomas, Welcome to the forum. It was from here: > **[bp426s\_Ledi\_Manual-Of-Light.pdf](https://www.bps.lk/olib/bp/bp426s_Ledi_Manual-Of-Light.pdf)** > > 962.84 KB This topic might be of interest also. > [@The rapidity of the rise and fall and are the actual individual realities known?](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/the-rapidity-of-the-rise-and-fall-and-are-the-actual-individual-realities-known/999): > > This is from a discussion I had on dhammawheel. Alex123: The issue is: In the “Discourse on Elements” (Dhatukatha) book, page XXVII it says commentary to Dhatukatha claims that 10^12 of cittas (a trillion! 1,000,000,000,000) arise per second. The sub-commentary raises the number to 10^15 cittas per second. I don’t dispute the claim. I wonder if the number is meant to be taken literal or not. I do not know. Maybe this number was meant to be taken literal (the commentator thought that way) bu… --- _[View the full topic](https://classicaltheravada.org/t/abhidhamma-is-not-suitable-as-insight-training-for-the-ordinary-person-ledi-sayadaw/1494)._